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Does The Disciples' Belief Prove The Resurrection?

Posted by arsindelve on 3/23/2008 6:27:52 PM  - Print This  - Email This

This question/comment was posted after the article, "Why Should I Believe Jesus Was the Son of God?" We've re-posted it here so that we can give this serious question the attention it deserves. Our staff will begin posting some answers later tomorrow.

It is a fairly strong argument that Jesus followers must be proclaiming the truth regarding his resurrection because of the absolute dedication of the rest of their lives to living out the mission that Jesus had given them. Moreover, the martyrdom of the disciples provokes the realization that not many people would give their lives for a hoax..

Yet, despite this, I think perhaps because the teachings of Jesus were so unique and could provide for a greater peace among believers (hence, leading to a more peaceful society), the followers of Jesus chose to live and die for it in order to create the belief in a 'Son of God' in people to result in those believers 'loving each other'. Thus, this seems to be a worthy reason. If they could die for this purpose, they could fabricate the resurrection of Jesus in order to fuel the success of what they preach.

I used to be a Christian, but am having serious difficulty believing. I want to, but I'm not sure whether it is a worthwhile or intelligent commitment.

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There is a difficulty when using logic, reason and evidence to reach a conclusion. You will never be able to reach one hundred percent certainty. There will always be some doubt, and so the best you can do is reach the conclusion that best fits the facts you have. You can never rule out any possibility, all you can do is realize that some options are more likely than others.

For me, that is the situation with the disciples' behavior after Jesus' death. I can look at the scenario you describe and I can accept that it is possible. However, it is simply not the most reasonable explanation available.

There are a few problems with this scenario.

First, we can't ignore the fact that Jesus said He was the Messiah. I don't think we can claim that He never said it, or that His disciples attributed this to Him after His death. If He had not said it, the Jews would not have been so eager to have Him crucified. He really ticked them off! So, for me it's clear that He made some claims of divinity for Himself during His lifetime. If His message had been a simple one of love, peace, forgiveness and so on, He would never have raised the ire of the establishment.

So now I try to imagine myself as one of His disciples immediately after His death. We all heard Him say He was the Christ. We believed Him, and now He's dead. Well then, He could not have been the Christ. Oh well, what now?

I simply cannot buy that these men and women would conspire to steal the body of a man who made such claims and then failed to back them up. If it were me, I would just walk away and cut my losses. I would be angry, bitter and confused. I would be thinking, "I don't care how positive and inspirational His messages of love and peace were -- He said He was the Christ and could not back it up!" So, for me, that's the biggest issue. I realize that Jesus was likely a VERY convincing and influential guy, but if He were just a man and and not God, I can't see Him being so persuasive that people would continue to follow Him after He made such lofty claims and then failed to back them up when it mattered most.

Another problem is the sheer immorality of such a hoax. It's not at all consistent with Christ's teaching to deceive anyone. If His disciples did this, then they did not understand much of what he taught. They would have launched Christianity on a basis that violated much of what it taught!

Next, we have to see how it worked out for them in the long run. If they had this idea that they would give meaning to other's lives by teaching a message of peace and love, it didn't work out for them. They were tortured, imprisoned and killed for it. I realized it's a double edged sword when we argue about what people will and will not die for, but can you imagine his disciples enduring such suffering in order to spread a message of peace and love from their failed messiah? At some point, I think I would turn to my brothers and ask, "Is this worth it"? It's worth dying for a risen God, but a con-man who had a decent, meaningful message of love? Hard to see.

Finally, we have to acknowledge just how much longevity Christianity has had based, primarily, on the testimony of these men. Once again, I admit this is a double-edge sword, but most religions (or cults) which purport to be based on facts do not have this kind of longevity unless the evidence is able to withstand the test of time.

When I put all this into perspective, the best explanation for the facts (especially when considered with all the other corroborating evidence which I will discuss later today) is that Jesus really did rise from the dead. I can imagine dozens of other explanations for why the disciples did what they did, but with each of these, I find I must jump through hoops to make them even barely plausible. Yet the truth is so simple and beautiful and has so much explanatory power -- it happened just like they said.

arsindelve- 3/24/2008 12:53:46 PM


One thing I failed to mention above is the sheer number of people to whom the risen Jesus appeared. According to Paul in 1 Corinthians, Jesus appeared to hundreds of people (1 Cor 15:6). Paul could not have made such a claim were it not true - most of these people would have been alive when his letter was written, and it would have been a simple matter to dispute this fact in an environment so hostile to the growth of Christianity.

This is far too many to have all been in on a hoax. A dozen people might have pulled off such a scheme, but if hundreds were involved, it would not be possible to keep a lid on it for long.
arsindelve- 3/24/2008 8:06:34 PM


On several occasions, I have read the Gospel accounts and have had various reactions including not comprehending much, and raising numerous objections. Based on my understanding, I have even critiqued the story using vile terms which I'm now uncomfortable typing, for fear those thoughts may harm someone who has not had the hardship of considering such negativity. There is plenty of material available to dissuade us from accepting the validity of the Gospel; left to our own inclinations, that is where many of us will drift. However, I hope you will investigate intellectual material that does provide rationale to counteract every objection that can be raised against Christianity. Studying pro-Christianity viewpoints is an intellectually honest pursuit.

Recently and fortunately for me, I read the Gospel and became overwhelmed with a sense of God's love for us and overcome with inspiration to accept the story as divine truth. There may be nothing intellectual or logical about arriving at this conclusion. However, I believe that once a person receives this revelation, Christianity is proven consistent, coherent and profound beyond human capacity to grow in understanding of its perfection.

Is there another religion based entirely on love? If another does exists, I wonder what results it is producing. The love coming from Christianity is worthwhile and can be observed in many endeavors, such as this website and from practitioners whose chief desire is to share this love with you - even though we will never meet you or gain anything from you. I believe the love I have for others did not originate with me, or was the product of a beautiful fable, but came from the same Source that caused Jesus and the His disciples to give their lives in love. To me, the love I can observe in Christianity is proof that the Gospel story is authentic.

As long as you are considering you may be a Christian, please pray for God to grant you His love and understanding. You have nothing to lose, but perhaps much to gain. Because I believe this love is too good to keep to myself, I would like to pray for you to receive the same.
anonymous- 3/25/2008 8:28:16 AM



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